OLGA TOKARCZUK: THE ART OF FICTION
INTERVIEWER
What was it like to grow up at a people's university?
TOKARCZUK
There was always something going on—someone stopping by our place, someone dashing out to a night class. The school was housed in a former hunting lodge that had belonged to the aristocratic Radziwill family, and there were a communal dining room and kitchen, dorms for the students, and three or four apartments for faculty. The teachers often arrived in pairs, husband and wife, but there were few children. Often I would sit in on my parents' classes, or dance and sing with their pupils. I thought all schools were like that—I realized only later how ,special it was, how lucky I was to have been immersed in this environment from birth.
Another little girl eventually showed up—the history teacher's daughter—and she and I played together. We had the whole lodge at our disposal, and we often wondered who had lived in this palace before, and why it hadn't been destroyed or looted during the war. There was a ballroom dominated by an enormous fireplace, and when you turned on the vent, it caused a strange echo to reverberate through the pipes. We would pretend that the hearth was a passage to another world. There were a lot of old books around, and paintings and reproductions of paintings. Paul Klee was my favorite painter growing up, because of a print of Dance You Monster to My Soft Song! that hung in the lodge. It includes a simple, almost childlike line drawing of what looked to me like a young girl. She stands near the bottom of the picture, her hands moving as if she were conducting an orchestra, commanding the monster hovering above her into motion. I'd stand before this image and imagine that I was the girl.
My parents worked from morning till night, much more than an eight-hour day. I was rarely the center of attention. They often left me and Tatiana with nannies, or entirely on our own. That's how I got pneumonia for the first time—I woke up and they weren't home, and I tried to go find them. It amused my family that Tatiana was more attached to her older sister than to her own mother. Whenever they had to leave town, they would hand us over to friends of theirs, a woman I called Grandma Kubicka and her husband, who worked at the school as a steward. During the war, Grandma Kubicka had marched all the way from Siberia to Berlin as part of General Berling's army, carrying a gun and wearing riding boots. I admired her for it.
My parents and I did connect deeply around literature, which they both greatly respected. They'd recommend books to me, which was important. I have a theory that people who don't read much before the age of fourteen never fully develop areas in the brain that process text into images or experiences. If you become a serious reader only in college, you interpret everything analytically. I sometimes see this in academic critics—they're so intelligent, and yet something eludes them.
Would you mind if I smoked a cigarette?
INTERVIEWER
Not at all. Were you a good student?
TOKARCZUK
I was at the absolute top of my class until fourth grade, when multiplication and division entered the picture. For the first time in my life, I hit a wall—I didn't get math, and several other kids were better at it. I think the experience was mildly traumatic for me, accustomed as I had been to intellectual omnipotence. As a result, I convinced myself that I wasn't into science—quite mistakenly, since it now seems to me that I have a scientific mind.
I recently reconnected with one of my primary school teachers, who tells me I was rather eccentric. Apparently, after finishing an assignment, I would ask, "May I nourish myself now?" Then I would pull out sandwiches and a soda bottle filled with milk and sit there eating, while the other children continued to work.
INTERVIEWER
What did you read when you were young? When I
TOKARCZUK
Early on, Tatiana and I discovered Jan Parandowski's classic Polish-language retellings of Greek and Roman myths. We must have gone
INTERVIEWER
What did you read when you were young? When I
TOKARCZUK
Early on, Tatiana and I discovered Jan Parandowski's classic Polish-language retellings of Greek and Roman myths. We must have gone
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